I have talked to several community members / partners in the last hours and all of them were ok with the following process :
- they will moderate their commercial mentions on projects.ez.no until the conference
- we will discuss and define new routines there.

This is for me the conclusion : our guidelines are not clear enough but the community should remain an open place driven by the community. Let us make things happen in Paris and after.

I also want to apologize if you took things personal Kristof. Not meant at all. I was simply trying to be a bit consistent with what was told to other people in the past. It seems it was not necessary and we would have discussed at the conference anyway. Sorry for the mess.

Cheers,

Bertrand

I wouldn’t loose any sleep over this.

Classic evasion scenario with vague and confusing answers.

It is all about making money. This is how the world works. Don’t buy into marketing / hype / nonsense spiced with freedom, open source, sharing, community, newsletters, awards, motivation, enthusiasm, promises and what not.

Instead, ask yourself:

1. How much is YOUR time and YOUR life worth?

2. Is it wise spending your energy making money for someone else?

Think about it…

Bonus question: How come dumb people have a huge flat and a brand new BMW? (they exploit clever people)

Discussion first, deletions later.

Make the right decision fast, before its too late.

On the 1st part, as he told you, Bertrand is on it and will contact you or update you on this blog about that. I agre there is no reason to have different treatments in the community, but also, you raise that we might need some improvements regarding the guidelines themselves so it might be not all achieved in one step neither in one post comment on this blog. Please feel free to call him or talk with him as well directly !

On the second part, i can answer. The certified extension section on ez.no is targeted to customers and not providers. It is a page where customers can find information about the available extensions in the ecosystem. You are right in the assessment that there is not a lot of information on ez.no for potential providers like yo who wants to certify and distribute their extension. So far it is more handled offline, in a one to one relation. Regarding your bet on the partner section, it is true that there is a bit more information on the partner section, but still the main information and the main process is always handled offline, in a direct real human relation with an eZ Systems rep. if you are interested, just call someone at eZ, and discuss the opportunity !

Hopefully, the certified extension might turn into a bigger business and we might have tools and routines much more automated to run a marketplace of certified extensions, but at this step, it is not that big, that is the main reason for not having all online on ez.no for providers like you !

Cheers
Roland

I wouldn’t loose any sleep over this.

It’s obvious that the answers are vague and confusing. Arrogant corporate evasion tactics.

As always, it is all about making money. This is how the world works. Don’t be fooled by marketing / hype / nonsense spiced with freedom, open source, sharing, worthless awards, lies, promises, imaginary motivation / enthusiasm and what not.

Instead, take a break and ask yourself the following:

1. How much is YOUR time and YOUR life worth?

2. Is it wise spending your energy making money for someone else?

Think about it…

We will look into the links we got from other people and handle it in the same reactive way as we have done for you.

The Certified Extension process will be described better with the new Product Management team in place.

I will not guarantee any deadline here since we are all dedicated to the eZ Conference. I repeat my proposition : let us talk together here and I invite you to talk to Roland too.

Thanks,

Bertrand

What will happen with the “commercial” messages of others in the community that were always overlooked? Will they be removed in 1-3 days, just like mine? Or will eZ Systems take another approach? Is there or will there be a way to mention the additional paid services related to any of the free (GPL-ed) contributions under my copyright that are available on ez.no or eZ Projects, without having to pay for it in whatever form (certify the extension, partner program) to eZ Systems?

To go a bit further on the topic of “certified extensions”, why is it so difficult to find any information about this on ez.no? I can not find anything about the process of certification and the costs involved. I bet they can only be found in the partner-only section of ez.no?