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	<title>Comments on: eZ Publish: to fork or not to fork</title>
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		<title>By: Jeroen v D</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-252902</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeroen v D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 12:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I didn&#039;t know things we&#039;re going as bad as I&#039;m reading here! About a half a year ago I decided to develop all my new projects on the eZ products. I&#039;ve got the first project online and have learned alot along they way and now I&#039;m reading this! Doesnt sound to promissing if things arent going to change!

So sign me up for the community edition. I would really like to put some time and effort in this project! And let&#039;s get a move on! Because we can we complain but that&#039;s not going to change anything. Let&#039;s create a vision where the community version should go, setup a roadmap and get people involved...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I didn&#8217;t know things we&#8217;re going as bad as I&#8217;m reading here! About a half a year ago I decided to develop all my new projects on the eZ products. I&#8217;ve got the first project online and have learned alot along they way and now I&#8217;m reading this! Doesnt sound to promissing if things arent going to change!</p>
<p>So sign me up for the community edition. I would really like to put some time and effort in this project! And let&#8217;s get a move on! Because we can we complain but that&#8217;s not going to change anything. Let&#8217;s create a vision where the community version should go, setup a roadmap and get people involved&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jérôme</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-248461</link>
		<dc:creator>Jérôme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you are gone, and I already miss you...

All the best for your new life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you are gone, and I already miss you&#8230;</p>
<p>All the best for your new life.</p>
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		<title>By: eZ Publish Fork? &#124; Tech News</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-248280</link>
		<dc:creator>eZ Publish Fork? &#124; Tech News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Groganz just tweeted a link to Kristof Coomans’s proposal of a community fork of eZ Publish. Kristof is about to be a former employee of eZ Systems Belgium and seems to be quite frustrated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Groganz just tweeted a link to Kristof Coomans’s proposal of a community fork of eZ Publish. Kristof is about to be a former employee of eZ Systems Belgium and seems to be quite frustrated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-248165</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

As Tony said, you will be missed, both as an eZ Systems employee, and as an hyperactive community member. I second you on the fact that the community aspects of eZ&#039;s underlying model were not dealt with diligently enough in the past months. I suspect this is due to the fact that eZ Systems, as a company, must be healthy. This in order to keep innovating, creating valuable software, and backing up its products with professional services. This makes the eZ ecosystem way more solid and sustainable, including the community, than it was in the past, and we will all benefit from this, from the eZ-beginner hacking its first extension, to the long-run senior architects, basing their business on eZ products. eZ products can *not* be without the community, eZ is aware of this, more than ever. The focus is slowly but surely coming back 100% to the product, meaning that the community shall be back in the limelight and involved in a deeper fashion...it has always been the case in eZ&#039;s heart...but not systematically put in practice lately.

Keep all up your excellent work !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>As Tony said, you will be missed, both as an eZ Systems employee, and as an hyperactive community member. I second you on the fact that the community aspects of eZ&#8217;s underlying model were not dealt with diligently enough in the past months. I suspect this is due to the fact that eZ Systems, as a company, must be healthy. This in order to keep innovating, creating valuable software, and backing up its products with professional services. This makes the eZ ecosystem way more solid and sustainable, including the community, than it was in the past, and we will all benefit from this, from the eZ-beginner hacking its first extension, to the long-run senior architects, basing their business on eZ products. eZ products can *not* be without the community, eZ is aware of this, more than ever. The focus is slowly but surely coming back 100% to the product, meaning that the community shall be back in the limelight and involved in a deeper fashion&#8230;it has always been the case in eZ&#8217;s heart&#8230;but not systematically put in practice lately.</p>
<p>Keep all up your excellent work !</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-247844</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

What you experienced a few month ago is something I feel familiar, albeit experienced before you.

As an open source tool, I find frustrating the speed of evolutions, and yes, ez is becoming a bloatware, and less and less agile.

Might be also a lack of resources as put from ez.

Anyway, that&#039;s been a pleasure to meet you and your work has been greatly appreciated.  Keep in touch.

X+</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>What you experienced a few month ago is something I feel familiar, albeit experienced before you.</p>
<p>As an open source tool, I find frustrating the speed of evolutions, and yes, ez is becoming a bloatware, and less and less agile.</p>
<p>Might be also a lack of resources as put from ez.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s been a pleasure to meet you and your work has been greatly appreciated.  Keep in touch.</p>
<p>X+</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Wood</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-247634</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will be missed Kristof. You brought you own passion and energy to the eZ ecosystem.

I wish you luck and enjoyment in whatever you choose to do next.

Have fun

Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will be missed Kristof. You brought you own passion and energy to the eZ ecosystem.</p>
<p>I wish you luck and enjoyment in whatever you choose to do next.</p>
<p>Have fun</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Kaiser</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-247546</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Kristoph! Sad to hear you go...

I also think a fork is not necessary, because a lot of corporate client need a opensource product with a strong company behind.

There are very experience partners that could handle improvement in ez publish core.

I like the way typo3 seems to work together with developers. Perhaps ez system should move to a similar concept...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Kristoph! Sad to hear you go&#8230;</p>
<p>I also think a fork is not necessary, because a lot of corporate client need a opensource product with a strong company behind.</p>
<p>There are very experience partners that could handle improvement in ez publish core.</p>
<p>I like the way typo3 seems to work together with developers. Perhaps ez system should move to a similar concept&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Genri</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-247508</link>
		<dc:creator>Genri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Kristoph!

Sad to hear that you are leaving.. First they sold Odessa office, now you are leaving.. Hope eZ can handle it.

Good luck in your future work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Kristoph!</p>
<p>Sad to hear that you are leaving.. First they sold Odessa office, now you are leaving.. Hope eZ can handle it.</p>
<p>Good luck in your future work!</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Igin</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-247507</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis Igin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to disperse all the sad comments above :)

The solution could be in deriving a procedure for partners to submit code to the main product, all within commercial, technical or whatever goals of eZ Systems ... Bertrand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to disperse all the sad comments above <img src='http://blog.coomanskristof.be/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The solution could be in deriving a procedure for partners to submit code to the main product, all within commercial, technical or whatever goals of eZ Systems &#8230; Bertrand?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Duck</title>
		<link>http://blog.coomanskristof.be/2009/01/31/ez-publish-to-fork-or-not-to-fork/comment-page-1/#comment-247283</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sad to see Kristof leaving eZ Systems and even worse to see the current state of the eZ Publish release cycle. 

&quot;The eZ philosophy of openness and information sharing is still the basics guideline for the company, employees and Ecosystem&quot; is a quote from the ez.no/company page. It is concerning to see the number of communication issues highlighted in the comments here and the lack of eZ Systems to recognise they no longer meet their own vision &quot;Help Businesses Manage, Publish and Share information&quot;. 

With a hazy roadmap, very little public disclosure or community input being valued, a broken release cycle (especially evident in 2008) and an ever shrinking development team we have to wonder as partners, community members and clients of eZ Systems what their intent really is at this point in time. For a company who I expect to produce software it is disheartening to see development teams shrinking and the focus continually being shifted to other projects (ez flow, ez find, ez now, ez components). 

I agree with Piotrek in hoping that eZ Systems recognise and deal with the underlying issues in eZ Publish before we are all forced to move on to other options that better meet the increasing needs of our clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad to see Kristof leaving eZ Systems and even worse to see the current state of the eZ Publish release cycle. </p>
<p>&#8220;The eZ philosophy of openness and information sharing is still the basics guideline for the company, employees and Ecosystem&#8221; is a quote from the ez.no/company page. It is concerning to see the number of communication issues highlighted in the comments here and the lack of eZ Systems to recognise they no longer meet their own vision &#8220;Help Businesses Manage, Publish and Share information&#8221;. </p>
<p>With a hazy roadmap, very little public disclosure or community input being valued, a broken release cycle (especially evident in 2008) and an ever shrinking development team we have to wonder as partners, community members and clients of eZ Systems what their intent really is at this point in time. For a company who I expect to produce software it is disheartening to see development teams shrinking and the focus continually being shifted to other projects (ez flow, ez find, ez now, ez components). </p>
<p>I agree with Piotrek in hoping that eZ Systems recognise and deal with the underlying issues in eZ Publish before we are all forced to move on to other options that better meet the increasing needs of our clients.</p>
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